08-15-2012 11:43 AM
To my knowledge, this is a known artifact / glitch with the latest firmware.
08-15-2012 11:58 AM
Well I bought a Zoom 5431J last night ($90+TAX @ Office Depot) to replace the Motorola SB6121, and after quite a long call with Comcast we got it registered.
It worked OK for about 3 hours and then I lost all connections again. I've swapped cables and splitters etc but it just won't sync.
So for me the SB6121 firmware upgrade looks like a red-herring. My Upstream Power Level is still 54 dBmV though, so perhaps I need to call out a Comcast engineer to sort it out?
08-15-2012 12:09 PM
Looks like you have a line problem / some type of return path impairment that will be there no matter the modem.
08-15-2012 12:30 PM
I would be curious to see what your results are if you plug your modem directly into the line that runs into your house before it splits off throughout the home. Might be worth testing.
08-15-2012 12:33 PM
I am real newbie wrt cable modems and we've only owned the house a few months (built 1989). I found a panel in the garage where the cable comes in and there is a splittter and and amplifier in there.
So I guess I should try and remove the amplifier to see if I can improve the signal quality/levels ?
We don't have a cable TV plan and only want a reliable internet connection for streaming.
Would a Comcast technician be able to sort it out ? Would I be charged for the callout ?
08-15-2012 12:35 PM
What do these stats mean ?
Signal Stats (Codewords) Bonding Channel Value Channel ID 5 6 7 8 Total Unerrored Codewords 10164404414 10164404546 10164404544 23049306443 Total Correctable Codewords 127 80 90 101 Total Uncorrectable Codewords 770 686 679 658
Does anyone know?
08-15-2012 12:38 PM - edited 08-15-2012 12:40 PM
AddyLaddy wrote:
I am real newbie wrt cable modems and we've only owned the house a few months (built 1989). I found a panel in the garage where the cable comes in and there is a splittter and and amplifier in there.
So I guess I should try and remove the amplifier to see if I can improve the signal quality/levels ?
We don't have a cable TV plan and only want a reliable internet connection for streaming.
Would a Comcast technician be able to sort it out ? Would I be charged for the callout ?
FWIW,
If you are handy, give removing the amp a try. If this is beyond your skill set, then book a tech to investigate.
08-15-2012 03:29 PM
I am pretty sure the majority of us are affected by IPv6 being turned on in our modems.
As of this writing my SB6120 has been up 8 days 2 hours. I had the same problems everyone else has described (from late June-Aug 7), including dealing with phone calls and e-mails with Comcast support, two tech visits, purchasing a new SB6121, purchasing new cable and connectors, etc. My upstream is typically 50-52db. The techs told me that is as good as I am going to get it for my area--Staunton, VA.
Where the cable enters the house I have 46db-48db, add one splitter -3.5db and I am at 50-52, so I guess that proves them out.
On August 7 around noon, I had my last reboot because of a T4 timeout error. Previously these reboots would occur from 1-5 times a day. My upload level seems to stay at 52db consistently. My download speeds are about 35Mbps, upload near 4.5Mbps.
I have looked over the modem's settings and there are two things that look different to me. The first is the Ranging Service ID. I believe it is a different number than before, but a search of the internet doesn't tell me anything about what this ID represents. The second thing that has changed is found in the Config tab I don't see a reference to IPv6 any more.
Frequency Plan: North American Standard/HRC/IRC Custom Frequency Ordering:
Default Upstream Channel ID: 4
Favorite Frequency (Hz) 627000000
DOCSIS MIMO IPv4 Only
Modem's IP Mode IPv4 Only
There is a post earlier in this thread that spoke to turning off IPv6 on your router to solve the problem, I think the person posting was using an Apple airport. I didn't try that I was figuring there was a hardware problem upstream in the Comcast infrastructure--we've had some wicked lightning storms this summer.
But now my modem has been stable for seven days. The other thing that I have now noticed is that the errored codewords (correctable and uncorrectable) don't change much if at all. Before when I kept dropping connections to the internet I would say that the uncorrectable numbers were at least 10% of the unerrored codewords and the numbers climbed together.
Channel ID 210 209 211 212
Total Unerrored Codewords 30305725694 26010758518 26010758523 26010758523
Total Correctable Codewords 21 11 8 9
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 1576 1402 1402 1402
Bottom line, if the line is stable, even at 52db upstream power level the errors seem to be non-existent and connectivity seems solid. The SB6120 spec states a max of 58db, the Motorola site says it would prefer 42-50db, but 52db is in spec and for the last 8 days 2 hours of experience it seems to be holding just find at that level.
I do have a new error I never have seen before, plus it seems to replace itself rather than adding to the log.
Aug 13 2012 14:48:13 4-Error D103.0
DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option...
I got the first of these errors on Aug 10, 3 days after being stable, then again on the 13th. But the error from the 10th was then gone, only the error from the 13 showed at the top of the log--as if it had been overwritten. I should also mentioned that I typically got errors all day long about T3, T4, etc. In the last 8 plus days I have only received one message in the log about DHCP renew and it appears to write over itself. COOL!
If your Comcast group still shows IPv6 in your modems config I would ask them to try setting to IPv4 only. It can't hurt.
Good Luck to Us All!
08-15-2012 03:50 PM - edited 08-15-2012 03:55 PM
gxholmberg wrote: My upstream is typically 50-52db. The techs told me that is as good as I am going to get it for my area--Staunton, VA.
Where the cable enters the house I have 46db-48db, add one splitter -3.5db and I am at 50-52, so I guess that proves them out.
Not necessarily. It should be somewhat lower at the de-marc to allow for more wiggle room. The drop from the tap on the pole could still be bad. The levels should be checked at both points. If there is an issue with the drop, it can be replaced by a premise facing tech. If it is with the tap itself or farther upstream in to the plant / infrastructure it needs to be escalated to the line maintenance dept. by the premises tech for investigation / correction.
The SB6120 spec states a max of 58db, the Motorola site says it would prefer 42-50db, but 52db is in spec and for the last 8 days 2 hours of experience it seems to be holding just find at that level.
FWIW, 58 dB is a manufacturer quoted spec that doesn't apply to actual field conditions. It is lower depending on the modulation type being, the number of multiple bonded channels and other factors like the tap values and the local plant specs. We must also take in to account the accuracy of any given modem's measuring mechanism. Modem's somewhat guess at the numbers and are in no way as accurate as a tech's very expensive hand held (SLM) tool.
40 to 50 dB at the modem is preferred.
08-15-2012 03:51 PM - edited 08-15-2012 03:52 PM
FWIW 52 Upstream power level is not in spec. Also your modem user guide may be true that the modem can handle a signal up to 58 but thats not what the CC head end can handle before problems pop up. Im glad your connection has been working for you as the temps start to drop with fall coming your upstream signals may fall even further hopefully back into the 40's. Good Luck !!
Got me again EG.. ![]()
08-15-2012 03:56 PM
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08-15-2012 05:05 PM
I removed the amplifier from my setup and the Zoom 5341J has now synced. Here are the new figures.
Do they look OK? Or will it cut out again soon?
We have the Comcast guy booked for first thing tomorrow.
Procedure Status Comment Acquire Downstream Channel 609000000 Hz Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Configuration File OK SecurityEnabled BPI+
Downstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables 1 Locked QAM256 88 609000000 Hz -10.7 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0 2 Locked QAM256 81 567000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 3 Locked QAM256 82 573000000 Hz -10.2 dBmV 38.7 dBmV 0 0 4 Locked QAM256 83 579000000 Hz -9.7 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 5 Locked QAM256 84 585000000 Hz -10.0 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 6 Locked QAM256 85 591000000 Hz -10.9 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0 7 Locked QAM256 86 597000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 38.3 dBmV 0 0 8 Locked QAM256 87 603000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0
Total Correctables Total Uncorrectables 0 0
Upstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power 1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 Ksym/sec 30600000 Hz 52.0 dBmV 2 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 Ksym/sec 37000000 Hz 53.5 dBmV
08-15-2012 05:08 PM
so what can end users do about a firmware issue?
08-15-2012 05:10 PM
AddyLaddy wrote:
I removed the amplifier from my setup and the Zoom 5341J has now synced. Here are the new figures.
Do they look OK? Or will it cut out again soon?
We have the Comcast guy booked for first thing tomorrow.
Procedure Status Comment Acquire Downstream Channel 609000000 Hz Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Configuration File OK SecurityEnabled BPI+
Downstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables 1 Locked QAM256 88 609000000 Hz -10.7 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0 2 Locked QAM256 81 567000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 3 Locked QAM256 82 573000000 Hz -10.2 dBmV 38.7 dBmV 0 0 4 Locked QAM256 83 579000000 Hz -9.7 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 5 Locked QAM256 84 585000000 Hz -10.0 dBmV 39.0 dBmV 0 0 6 Locked QAM256 85 591000000 Hz -10.9 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0 7 Locked QAM256 86 597000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 38.3 dBmV 0 0 8 Locked QAM256 87 603000000 Hz -10.6 dBmV 38.2 dBmV 0 0
Total Correctables Total Uncorrectables 0 0
Upstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power 1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 Ksym/sec 30600000 Hz 52.0 dBmV 2 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 Ksym/sec 37000000 Hz 53.5 dBmV
Now the downstream is way worse but not much improvement in the upstream. I would get a tech to investigate and correct.
08-15-2012 05:11 PM
digitalcassette wrote:
so what can end users do about a firmware issue?
Not much except COMPLAIN !!!
08-15-2012 05:27 PM
WHO can fix firmware issues? Comcast? Motorola? The Giant Spaghetti Monstor form outer space?
08-15-2012 05:32 PM
Motorola supplies the firmware to CC. CC tests it and is the one who pushes it out to the modems. The end user can do nothing but wait for this process..
08-15-2012 11:01 PM
Wed Aug 15 18:49:19 2012 Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=00:25:f2:e6:17:d7;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Status System Up Time 0 days 04h:33m:34s Network AccessAllowed
Cable Modem IP Address
Startup Procedure Procedure Status Comment Acquire Downstream Channel Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Configuration File SecurityEnabled BPI+
Downstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables 1 Locked QAM256 4 723000000 Hz 5.5 dBmV 36.1 dB 0 0 2 Locked QAM256 1 705000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 36.6 dB 0 0 3 Locked QAM256 2 711000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 36.5 dB 0 0 4 Locked QAM256 3 717000000 Hz 5.9 dBmV 36.2 dB 0 0 5 Locked QAM256 5 729000000 Hz 5.3 dBmV 35.9 dB 0 0 6 Locked QAM256 6 735000000 Hz 4.9 dBmV 36.5 dB 0 0 7 Locked QAM256 7 741000000 Hz 4.7 dBmV 36.2 dB 0 0 8 Locked QAM256 8 747000000 Hz 4.3 dBmV 31.7 dB 3247479 2089623
Upstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power 1 Locked ATDMA 7 5120 Ksym/sec 30600000 Hz 41.0 dBmV 2 Locked TDMA 8 2560 Ksym/sec 25300000 Hz 41.0 dBmV 3 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 4 Not Locked
Unknown
0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz
0.0 dBmV
Wed Aug 15 18:49:19 2012 Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=00:25:f2:e6:17:d7;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
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08-15-2012 11:48 PM - edited 08-16-2012 01:00 AM
N.M.
08-16-2012 01:00 AM
EG wrote:Now the downstream is way worse but not much improvement in the upstream. I would get a tech to investigate and correct.
Ok so I routed the CC feed from the road via a single splitter down to my media room where the cable modem is situated, and we got a sync first time. Previously it was going via the amplifier into an 8-way multiplexor.
Downstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables 1 Locked QAM256 88 609000000 Hz -0.2 dBmV 39.9 dBmV 5 0 2 Locked QAM256 81 567000000 Hz -0.3 dBmV 40.3 dBmV 0 0 3 Locked QAM256 82 573000000 Hz 0.2 dBmV 40.3 dBmV 0 0 4 Locked QAM256 83 579000000 Hz 0.7 dBmV 40.3 dBmV 1 0 5 Locked QAM256 84 585000000 Hz 0.3 dBmV 40.4 dBmV 2 0 6 Locked QAM256 85 591000000 Hz -0.5 dBmV 39.9 dBmV 10 0 7 Locked QAM256 86 597000000 Hz -0.1 dBmV 39.9 dBmV 8 0 8 Locked QAM256 87 603000000 Hz 0.0 dBmV 39.7 dBmV 6 0
Total Correctables Total Uncorrectables 32 0
Upstream Bonded ChannelsChannel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power 1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 Ksym/sec 30600000 Hz 41.5 dBmV 2 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 Ksym/sec 37000000 Hz 43.0 dBmV
Looks better? I will need to add one more splitter in the media room so we can watch basic TV.
We'll see if the Comcast guy can improve things further.
Thanks for all your advice.
08-16-2012 01:03 AM
That'll work as far as connection quality goes !!! ![]()
You may still have the firmware issue though.
08-16-2012 08:38 AM
nerdberg - what else do you need from us? what's the roadblocks to getting new firmware released or the old firmware rolled back out?
08-16-2012 04:30 PM
Keep losing connection...
Signal Stats (Codewords) Bonding Channel Value Channel ID 99 97 98 100 Total Unerrored Codewords 28678019 28677934 28678024 28677937 Total Correctable Codewords 26 11 44 8 Total Uncorrectable Codewords 580 688 563 688
08-16-2012 04:47 PM - edited 08-16-2012 04:47 PM
qwicksilver wrote:
Keep losing connection...
Downstream Bonding Channel Value Channel ID 99 97 98 100 Frequency 621000000 Hz 615000000 Hz 627000000 Hz 633000000 Hz Signal to Noise Ratio 36 dB 37 dB 37 dB 37 dB Downstream Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 Power Level The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading 1 dBmV 1 dBmV 1 dBmV 2 dBmV Upstream Bonding Channel Value Channel ID 4 5 Frequency 36800000 Hz 30200000 Hz Ranging Service ID 88 88 Symbol Rate 5.120 Msym/sec 5.120 Msym/sec Power Level 54 dBmV 54 dBmV Upstream Modulation [3] QPSK
[3] 64QAM
[3] QPSK
[3] 64QAM
Ranging Status Success SuccessSignal Stats (Codewords) Bonding Channel Value Channel ID 99 97 98 100 Total Unerrored Codewords 28678019 28677934 28678024 28677937 Total Correctable Codewords 26 11 44 8 Total Uncorrectable Codewords 580 688 563 688
You have a signal issue that needs to be addressed regardless of anything else.The upstream power is too high and may be intermittently fluctuating even higher out of spec.That will cause random disconnects and spontaneous re-booting of the modem. Are there any excess/unneeded coax cable splitters in the line leading to the modem that can be eliminated/re-configured ?
If there aren't any unneeded splitters that can be eliminated and if your coax wiring setup can't be reconfigured so that there is a single two way splitter connected directly off of the drop from the street/pole with one port feeding the modem and the other port feeding the rest of the house/equipment with additional splits as needed and you've checked all the wiring and fittings for integrity and tightness and refresh them by taking them apart then putting them back together again, then perhaps it's best to book a tech visit to investigate and correct.
08-16-2012 10:14 PM
They had to place an amplifier on the lines a couple years back because I was getting a weak signal....
Wouldn't I return to a weak signal if I got rid of the amplifier?
Not to mention none of this started happening until the firmware update a few days ago....
08-17-2012 12:09 AM - edited 08-17-2012 08:46 AM
qwicksilver wrote:
They had to place an amplifier on the lines a couple years back because I was getting a weak signal....
Was that a "weak signal" on the downstream or the upstream ?
Wouldn't I return to a weak signal if I got rid of the amplifier?
That depends on if the upstream or the downstream was weak and whether or not this particular amp was bi-directional (having an active return) or not.
Not to mention none of this started happening until the firmware update a few days ago....
Again. Regardless of the firmware, this RF signal / connection quality issue needs to be addressed...
08-17-2012 05:52 AM
Hi like most of you I have had these problems for the past weeks even after a trip by the technician last weekend.
Question - Could "unrecognized OID" (see below) be the cause of the regular T3/T4 timeouts that I am getting? My SNR and signal levels for up/downstream are in acceptable ranges.
TLV-11 - unrecognized
OID;CM-MAC=a4:7a:a4:ee:94:40;CMTS-MAC=00:1d:70:cc:
Thanks in advance!
08-17-2012 11:01 AM
I've taken off work twice now for a tech to come to my house and
tell my signal is perfect. The first tech said maybe my cable modem (personal
owned SB6120) might have had a small surge. So I replaced it with a new SB6121.
The second tech said he would escalate to have someone look at the main line
external to my house and said it should be resolved in 24-48 hours. It's been 48
hours and I'm still encountering the issue. I'm ready to switch to another ISP because this has cost me too much time and money.
Time Priority Code
Message
Aug 16 2012 19:54:23 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received -
T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug
16 2012 19:38:32 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized
OID;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:32:
Aug
16 2012 19:38:32 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file
MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan
01 1970 00:00:20 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan
01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout
;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:32:8c:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:44 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No
response - Retries
exhausted;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:44 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries
exhausted;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:44 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No
response - Retries
exhausted;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:43 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries
exhausted;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:43 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug
16 2012 19:37:33 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance
Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time
out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:32:
Aug
16 2012 19:37:33 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug
16 2012 19:37:03 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance
Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time
out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:32:
Aug
16 2012 19:25:03 3-Critical R05.0 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No
Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug
16 2012 19:24:56 5-Warning U103.0 Initializing Channel Timeout Expires - Time
the CM can perform initial ranging on all upstream channels in the TCS has
expired;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Aug
16 2012 19:24:56 5-Warning U102.0 TCS Partial
Service;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Aug
16 2012 19:24:53 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug
16 2012 19:23:55 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized
OID;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:32:
Aug
16 2012 19:23:55 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file
MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan
01 1970 00:01:59 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3
time-out;CM-MAC=94:cc:b9:1b:25:1f;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Downstream
Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 5 1 7 8
Frequency 669000000 Hz 645000000
Hz 681000000 Hz 687000000 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB 37 dB 37 dB 36
dB
Downstream Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256
Power LevelThe
Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was
requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
-4 dBmV -3 dBmV
-4 dBmV -5 dBmV
Upstream Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 5 4
6
Frequency 29600000 Hz 36000000 Hz 21400000 Hz
Ranging Service ID 461 461
461
Symbol Rate 5.120 Msym/sec 5.120 Msym/sec 2.560 Msym/sec
Power Level
40 dBmV 42 dBmV 39 dBmV
Upstream Modulation [3] QPSK
[3] 64QAM
[3]
QPSK
[3] 64QAM
[3] QPSK
[2] 16QAM
Ranging Status Success Success
Success
Signal Stats (Codewords) Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 5 1
7 8
Total Unerrored Codewords 76395024 76396020 76396276 76398331
Total
Correctable Codewords 592 583 512 385
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 4022 3033
2847 910
08-17-2012 03:59 PM
I can't remember if it was downstream or upstream.
My signal may need some tweaking, but I believe the root cause of EVERONE ELSE's disconnects stems from the new firmware.
Prior to firmware update I couldn't have been happier with my connection. I can't same the same for AFTER the firmware update.
Yes yes yes. I know the signal might need adjusting, but the bottom line is that the problem is the firmware.
08-17-2012 04:06 PM
digitalcassette wrote:
nerdberg - what else do you need from us? what's the roadblocks to getting new firmware released or the old firmware rolled back out?
I know the right ppl at Comcast are aware of this thread. Other than that, I don't have any other information to share. Sorry.
Connection and trouble shooting tips (How to check signal levels.) . Info you should post to get help.
The opinions expressed here are my own and are not sanctioned by my employer.
08-17-2012 04:41 PM
Yes, my SB6121 randomly drops signal for a period of time. Sometimes the signal comes back on it's own, other times I power off/on. It's been happening for a couple of months now.
Model:
Model Name: SB6121
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.6-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.
Hardware Version: 5.0
Serial Number: 359058114703563001012019
Firmware Build Time: Apr 17 2012 15:09:37
Downstream (connection is working at the moment):
Channel 3:
Freq: 3
S/N: 627000000 Hz
38 dB
DM: QAM256
Power: 9 dBmV
Channel 5:
Freq: 639000000 Hz
S/N: 37 dB
DM: QAM256
Power: 8 dBmV
Channel 7:
Freq: 651000000 Hz
S/N: 37 dB
DM: QAM256
Power: 7 dBmV
Channel 8:
Freq: 657000000 Hz
S/N: 37 dB
DM: QAM256
Power: 8 dBmV
Upstream:
Channel: 7:
Freq: 36500000 Hz
Ranging: 6285
Symbol: 5.120 Msym/sec
Power: 51 dBmV
Upstream: [3] QPSK, [3] 64QAM
Status: Success
Channel: 8
Freq: 29800000 Hz
Ranging: 6285
Symbol: 5.120 Msym/sec
Power: 48 dBmV
Status: [3] QPSK, [3] 64QAM
Status: T4 TimeOut
Channel: 9
Freq: 23800000 Hz
Ranging: 6285
Symbol: 2.560 Msym/sec
Power: 52 dBmV
Status: [3] QPSK, [2] 16QAM
Status: Success
Signal Stats:
Channel: 3
Unerrored: 44017953
Correctable: 47
Uncorrectable: 735
Channel: 5
Unerrored: 44018075
Correctable: 0
Uncorrectable: 640
Channel: 7
Unerrored: 44018077
Correctable: 0
Uncorrectable: 640
Channel: 8
Unerrored: 44017991
Correctable: 0
Uncorrectable: 728
Logs:
Aug 17 2012 15:38:34
3-Critical
R04.0
Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:22:
Aug 17 2012 15:11:04
3-Critical
R05.0
Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug 17 2012 15:10:49
5-Warning
U103.0
Initializing Channel Timeout Expires - Time the CM can perform initial ranging on all upstream channels in the TCS has expired;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Aug 17 2012 15:10:49
5-Warning
U102.0
TCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Aug 17 2012 15:10:47
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Aug 17 2012 15:09:48
6-Notice
I401.0
TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:22:
Aug 17 2012 15:09:48
5-Warning
Z00.0
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:34
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13
6-Notice
N/A
Cable Modem Reboot due to power reset ;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Jan 01 1970 00:00:46
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13
6-Notice
N/A
Cable Modem Reboot due to power reset ;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Jan 01 1970 00:01:11
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13
6-Notice
N/A
Cable Modem Reboot due to power reset ;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Jan 01 1970 00:01:10
3-Critical
D01.0
DHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:00:35
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13
6-Notice
N/A
Cable Modem Reboot due to power reset ;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Jan 01 1970 00:02:42
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:02:01
3-Critical
D01.0
DHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:01:23
3-Critical
R02.0
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5
Jan 01 1970 00:01:12
3-Critical
R06.0
Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=e4:83:99:5e:09:6a;CMTS-MAC=00:01:
08-17-2012 05:59 PM - edited 08-17-2012 06:02 PM
I have the Motorola SB6120. I had earlier posted short interruptions in my internet connection similar to the following:
Failure Start Length
08/11/2012 09:00:03 0:02:35
08/11/2012 09:06:16 0:03:21
08/11/2012 09:13:46 0:02:50
08/11/2012 09:21:09 0:02:26
08/11/2012 09:27:59 0:02:36
08/11/2012 09:34:18 0:03:17
08/11/2012 09:41:08 0:03:25
08/11/2012 09:48:57 0:02:36
08/11/2012 09:56:40 0:01:52
08/11/2012 10:09:14 0:03:17
08/11/2012 10:19:16 0:00:15
08/11/2012 10:39:20 0:01:09
08/11/2012 10:51:05 0:03:22
Modem:
Model Name: SB6120
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB612X-1.0.3.3-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot 1.0.0.4m1
Hardware Version: 3.0
Serial Number:
I contacted Motorola technical support regarding this issue after first trying Comcast’s chat support, which failed to resolve the issue. The Motorola tech indicated my upstream power level should be in the 40s. Right now it is in the 50s. (Around 51 and 52)Furthermore, my downstream power level of 3dBmV should be closer to zero. I notice in a number of other posts they have similar power levels.
The Motorola tech indicated Comcast has control over these values and could adjust them. There was nothing wrong with the SB6120. However, when I contacted Comcast support via chat they indicated they had no control over these levels. I have no idea who is right regarding this particular issue.
I replaced the SB6120 with the previous modem I had been using which is a Motorola SB5101. Since the replacement on 8/13/2012 , I haven’t experienced any interruptions in my service.
08-17-2012 06:02 PM
I got my internet finally fixed. After speaking with the 9th tech in 6 days time, one noticed I had the boot file for the old blast on my modem and not the "WIDEBAND BLAST". They loaded it last night and this morning I had 53Mbps down / 10.5Mbps up.
08-17-2012 06:10 PM - edited 08-17-2012 06:12 PM
A downstream power level of +3 is perfectly acceptable and well in spec dont worry about that. However they are right about the upstream 40's is good 50 and above all bets are off.
08-17-2012 06:18 PM
qwicksilver wrote:I can't remember if it was downstream or upstream.
My signal may need some tweaking, but I believe the root cause of EVERONE ELSE's disconnects stems from the new firmware.
Prior to firmware update I couldn't have been happier with my connection. I can't same the same for AFTER the firmware update.
Yes yes yes. I know the signal might need adjusting, but the bottom line is that the problem is the firmware.
There was another thread on SB6121 issues and most of those were posted, indicating issues, with an older firmweare version. In fact, many figured the recent push would resolve their issues most of which have been posted in this thread. My SB6121 was happily running along fine for several months. It was within the alst month or so that I started having issues. So started with previous modem firmware and continues. Had to power cycle everything twice today to get back online.
08-17-2012 06:36 PM
Looks like they fixed it:
Firmware Build Time: Apr 17 2012 15:09:37
08-17-2012 07:26 PM
qwicksilver wrote:Looks like they fixed it:
Firmware Build Time: Apr 17 2012 15:09:37
I don't understand your comment - That build is 1066 - the one that seems to have caused a lot of problems.
08-17-2012 07:28 PM - edited 08-17-2012 08:14 PM
rickeduncan wrote: My SB6121 was happily running along fine for several months. It was within the last month or so that I started having issues.
Same here. That coincidentally for me was when they pushed out 1066 over 1033.
08-17-2012 11:51 PM - edited 08-17-2012 11:53 PM
Comcast has been having a lot of issues with those modems and this has been a known issue for months now. Nobody knows when this problem will be addressed. Sorry.
08-18-2012 12:03 AM
Does this issue also affect SB6120? Because I was having the same exact issue with it.
08-18-2012 12:09 AM
My posts regarding interruptions in service all pertain to the SB6120
08-18-2012 07:37 AM
Both the SB6120 and SB6121 are having the same problems (coincidentally they have the same firmware).
Please note that I have my old SB6120 connected since Aug 7, 10 days 17 hours as of this writing. I have received 0 error messages other than
4-Error D103.0
DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;
Which replaces itself at the top of the log every three to four days (10th, 13th, 17th). The previoused dated versio of this log entry is simply overwritten with this error message.
Additionally
Channel ID210 209 211 212
Total Unerrored Codewords 42203911443 37908944267 37908944272 37908944272
Total Correctable Codewords 21 11 8 9
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 1576 1402 1402 1402
I get like zero errored codewords. The numbers have not changed for days, and most of the errors you see came about when I moved one of Comcast's crappy digital converters that they issued several months back. Unfortunately they only gave me two for three TVs that were connected to the cable without a STB when they converted to full digital TV signal. They want me to pay 1.95 a month for the third converter, I'm not doing that, so I have to swap the converted between two sets (spare room and rec room). If I could buy one I would, but I am not paying them an extra $24 bucks a years on top of the outrageous fees they charge already. The most recent increase is effectively making me pay 13 months for 12 months of service. Comcast has been getting increases approved every year in spite of the econonmy. If I could switch, I would switch. Sorry about the off topic rant.
I mentioned in an earlier post that it appears to me that on the Configuration Tab my modem says IPv4 only, when I believe it listed IPv4 and IPv6 before my connection became stable on Aug 7. My upstream signal has remained a steady 52db and based on replies to my earlier post I have contacted my Staunton, VA Comcast to look into bringing down that number. But I actually don't expect them to. The techs said it was a really good signal for the area--you can't make this stuff up (LOL). I am really jealous of all the other posts showing upstream signals in the 40-45 range.
I am running the same firmware everyone else is running, again the only difference I see is I am now IPv4 only.
Model Name: SB6120
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.6-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot 1.0.0.4m1
Hardware Version: 3.0
Serial Number: 317001929400133305030011
Firmware Build Time: Apr 17 2012 15:09:37
08-18-2012 08:04 AM
I've delt with it for over a year! They do nothing about it. Class action law suite is the plan
08-18-2012 08:41 AM
kristy2163 wrote:I've delt with it for over a year! They do nothing about it. Class action law suite is the plan
You cannot file class action anymore. Check the current service agreement. Binding Arbitration is now the rule thanks to the Supreme Court and AT&T.
08-18-2012 09:50 AM
Been having the same issues for the past 2-3 weeks now in AACO:
Model Name: SB6120
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.6-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot 1.0.0.4m1
Hardware Version: 3.0
Serial Number: 317001923000807505020011
Firmware Build Time: Apr 17 2012 15:09:37
Downstream Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1 2 3 4
Frequency 579000000 Hz 585000000 Hz 591000000 Hz 573000000 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB 37 dB 37 dB 37 dB
Downstream Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
7 dBmV 7 dBmV 7 dBmV 7 dBmV
Upstream Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 3 1 2
Frequency 22000000 Hz 36000000 Hz 28000000 Hz
Ranging Service ID 6941 6941 6941
Symbol Rate 2.560 Msym/sec 5.120 Msym/sec 5.120 Msym/sec
Power Level 42 dBmV 44 dBmV 44 dBmV
Upstream Modulation [3] QPSK
[2] 16QAM
[3] QPSK
[3] 64QAM
[3] QPSK
[3] 64QAM
Ranging Status Success Success Success
Signal Stats (Codewords) Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 1 2 3 4
Total Unerrored Codewords 28299830 28299656 28300538 28300748
Total Correctable Codewords 47 9 13 0
Total Uncorrectable Codewords 1451 1672 737 521
Aug 18 2012 08:32:28 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 08:32:27 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Aug 18 2012 08:31:46 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 06:18:23 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 06:18:23 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:96:
Aug 18 2012 06:17:42 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:34:34 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:34:33 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Aug 18 2012 05:33:51 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:27:14 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:27:13 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Aug 18 2012 05:26:32 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:12:33 6-Notice I401.0 TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
Aug 18 2012 05:12:33 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice N/A Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:
Aug 18 2012 05:11:51 3-Critical R04.0 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=00:22:10:2c:10:9c;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:31:
It's getting pretty old...
08-18-2012 10:52 AM
I have been having the same issues for longer than I realize. Comcast pushed that firmware version out in April of 2012. Honestly, I was convinced that was the problem, but now I'm not. I have the Motorola SB6120 and it started randomly and incessantly dropping out and rebooting around the end of July 2012. Comcast sent a tech out 7/28/12. He replaced an old splitter that wasn't being used with a straight line connector coming into the outside wall and it did fix the dropping out problem, but it was still very slow...around 3 on the download and .7 on the upload. He took a reading for the signal coming into the cable box in the yard and told me it was okay but that the signal was actually too strong and would cause problems. He said he was going to have people do a 'line sweep'. Of course, there apparently is no way for me the consumer to ever find out if they did that. I finally called again. Tech came out yesterday August 17th. First he bypassed my coax line coming from the box to the outer wall of the house with his own. Same slow speed readings. Then he further bypassed the wall to modem line by bringing his coax straight from the box outside straight to my modem. Same slow readings. He says it is my modem. So he swaps out my modem with his test modem (he spent a good 30 minutes on hold on two separate phone calls waiting to get a human being to register the MAC address). Anyway, his modem got the same thing...same slow speed. Somebody he talked to said the line readings were okay...he said they are not. 3 hours all total and no resolution...tech said he had turned it in and that people would be coming out but didn't know when. He said it could be some something causing a 'backfeed' in the line...could be two houses down or two blocks down. I am going to call this morning and see what they say. Technically I should have a ticket open from July 28th and yesterday. I tried chatting with a rep online last night, but I disconnected because he/she was the polar opposite of genius (since the speech police won't let my use a simple term). You feel like you are talking to a politician who keeps parroting the same song over and over and over and never answers the question...WHEN????
08-18-2012 11:12 AM
I'm telling you that is basically the exact same modem. My posts also are the SB6120. I am also telling anyone who will listen, that this is NOT a modem issue. This is a Comcast internal issue of some kind that I believe they are refusing to address. Every test of process elimination has been tried at my end...tech swapping out cables, bypassing coax lines to the house and inside the house. Trying THEIR modem...trying a diffent computer, etc. I DO NOT believe that this is a modem or firmware issue. There is something wrong with their equipment at the head end or whatever they call it. I gonna stay on them..about to call again right now.
08-18-2012 11:15 AM - edited 08-18-2012 11:18 AM
As I indicated in other posts this problem occurs with my SB6120. When I spoke to a Motorola tech he pointed out my upstream power level should be in the 40s (mine was 51dBmV). My downstream power level was 3dBmV and he indicated it would be much better if it were closer to zero.
I replaced the modem with an SB5101 to see if it would help resolve the problem which it did. What is interesting is my upstream power level is now 54dBmV (out of spec) but my downstream power level is now less than 1dBmV and I no longer am experiencing intermittent internet connections similar to these:
Failure Start Length
08/11/2012 09:00:03 0:02:35
08/11/2012 09:06:16 0:03:21
08/11/2012 09:13:46 0:02:50
08/11/2012 09:21:09 0:02:26
08/11/2012 09:27:59 0:02:36
08/11/2012 09:34:18 0:03:17
08/11/2012 09:41:08 0:03:25
08/11/2012 09:48:57 0:02:36
08/11/2012 09:56:40 0:01:52
08/11/2012 10:09:14 0:03:17
08/11/2012 10:19:16 0:00:15
08/11/2012 10:39:20 0:01:09
08/11/2012 10:51:05 0:03:22
08/11/2012 11:04:32 0:05:47
The question remains whose problem is it and who will resolve it? Motorola or Comcast. I am going to continue to run with the SB5101 until I am certain the issue is resolved.
08-18-2012 03:34 PM
If Comcast has identified an issue with these model modems, then maybe you should update your compatible modems page.
Also why don't your techs know about these issues?
08-18-2012 04:14 PM
Hi all, I had the following firmware updated since Apr 17th, 2012, however my challenges only started a couple of weeks ago i.e. intermittent disconnection on the modem.
Model Name: SB6121
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB_KOMODO-1.0.6.6-SCM00-NOSH
Boot Version: PSPU-Boot(25CLK) 1.0.12.
Hardware Version: 5.0
Today the Comcast tech came over to attached an Equalizer (EQ) between the splitter and the coaxial cable leading to my SB6121 modem to narrow the signal fluctuation and it has been working for the last 4 - 5 hours really well. I have left youtube, my cable TV, SKYPE video and several devices running and it's all been fine. The tech person also mentioned that he would put me on a "ping monitor" so that the Comcast team can monitor the performance of my modem over the next 4 days. He also mentioned the unusual 95F yesterday and high temperatures these past two weeks may have accentuated the challenges since my home to street connection runs a distance on overhead poles.
If the above fixes sustain over the next few days with on-going connectivity and minimal dropouts, I will post again to update everyone.
FYI, I have upgraded my router to the Netgear N600 as well and as it has better handshaking capability with my SB6121 modem it doesn't require manual reboot per se unlike the earlier Belkin router that I had earlier. This has helped to isolate outages primarily to my modem or Comcast configuration (signal level, line problem etc).
I have spent hours on this forum reading concerns about the firmware and I suspect it may not be the primary cause of several of your concerns.
Thanks Comcast tech person - sorry I forgot to ask your name.
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