11-22-2008 02:38 PM - edited 11-22-2008 11:12 PM
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11-22-2008 02:52 PM
It's not you. It is the new traffic management software Comcast has inflected on its customers. Not only does the packet counting make comcast its own largest single bandwidth user, it has created a new profit center for comcast.
Comcast has tilted the incomming bandwidth into their network areas to be more than the outgoing bandwidth flowing out of their network. The result is that instead of having a bereak even billing to other carriers for bandwidth use that crosses their network, comcast gets to bill more than they are billing.
Of course the customers for comcast are **bleep**. This means your packets are no longer routed the best and shortest way, which causes delays. It also means that many of your packets will never reach their destination, and connection attempts time out, as comcast "manages" your traffic.
Dont bother complaining. There is no QC or customer feedback on the failings of their traffic management software. Such as when doing certain microsoft updates.
Also keep in mind that any connections that "might" create a competition to any of comcast media group, will never get clean connections. I suggest getting one of the packet sniffers and watching with glee as comcast sends resets at your modem during any data transfers. Its quite hilarious.
11-22-2008 03:00 PM - edited 11-22-2008 03:02 PM
11-22-2008 03:08 PM
Really? Pray inform me then. Comcast has seen fit to not release any info. How IS comcast making more money off its customers? What has the New Jersey marketing team devised as a by-line to cover the gaps in service?
Also tell me how comcast fixed a neighbors inability to connect to netflix, without any changes to the customer system? For months he could ping the site, but never connect, until he called comcast.
Aside from my living in a "protected" comcast area courtesy of the FCC, where do you live that comcast isnt raking the customer? Do you live some place they actually have to compete?
11-22-2008 03:15 PM
Screwedbycomcas wrote:
Really? Pray inform me then.
Not my job. But may I suggest that you do your own homework before "opening mouth and inserting foot"...
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11-22-2008 03:17 PM
By the way, I do watch how they send streams of reset packets at the modem. It isn't comming from the source file locations. At least that is what microsoft says. It took me weeks trying to download service pack 3 when it released. At the very end the download would terminate with a reset packet.
Interestingly, the IE8 beta reports the reset packets to the user as the cause for the failed downloads.
11-22-2008 03:20 PM
I have no tase of sock or foot. Perhaps you might avail yourself of comcasts management styles, and who answers to whom in the organization.
You have nothing of substance to contribute I see.
11-22-2008 03:25 PM
I do apologize for that last cheap shot.
I also realize that comcast management has told all employees that they may not discuss any aspect of their management software under pain of termination.
11-22-2008 04:06 PM - edited 11-22-2008 04:13 PM
I'm not an employee.
I'm free to think on my feet ! ![]()
Screwedbycomcas wrote:
You have nothing of substance to contribute I see.
Have you contributed anything of substance to this thread ??
Seems to me it is nothing but a bunch of FUD !
Garbage begets garbage ! ![]()
11-22-2008 04:18 PM
I have done homework. Check this from their communication to the FCC:
A. Thresholds For Determining When a CMTS Port Is in a Near Congestion
State
For a CMTS port to enter the Near Congestion State, traffic flowing to or from that
CMTS port must exceed a specified level (the “Port Utilization Threshold”) for a specific period
of time (the “Port Utilization Duration”). The Port Utilization Threshold on a CMTS port is
measured as a percentage of the total aggregate upstream or downstream bandwidth for the
particular port during the relevant timeframe. The Port Utilization Duration on the CMTS is
measured in minutes.
Meaning that if you are the only one on line at 3AM, then you will trip the port utilization threashold. There is no other traffic to balance your useage out.
Also if one reads the terms of useage, it becomes obvious that comcast can disallow any web transaction they nilly-willy please. Even my dissent here, can be determined to be a violation of terms of use, just because they don't like it.
11-22-2008 07:27 PM
You seem to have already decided for yourself, which is okay, but in case you do want to know...
The section you have quoted is referring to the CMTS port which serves multiple subscribers and could have typically anywhere from 30 Mbps to 300 Mbps of downstream "bandwidth" and 8 Mbps to 100 Mbps on the upstream side. It further goes on past the quoted section to describe the conditions that will cause the CMTS port to be considered in a state of near congestion. Also a bit further down beyond the quoted section also describes the critieria for an individual subscriber to be considered in a state of extended consumption.
The CMTS port needs to be considered in a state of near congestion AND the subscriber needs to be considered in a state of extended consumption for anything to happen. Even then, what happens is the subscriber's traffic is given a different priority while BOTH conditions continue to exist. The new system does not use any sort of RST method.
Regardless of how you feel about any kind of network management, what you should recogonize is the approach used to implement this system is completely different than the other approaches Comcast has used in the recent past. They have published, in advance, both general and technical information regarding the system and the change. They have also sent an e-mail to all (HSI?) subscribers informing them that a change is taking place and also directing them to the previously published documents. Your statements about Comcast employees discussing the change or the new system is unconditionally inaccurate - they have discussed it publically here, the Broadband Reports web site and other locations on the web.
And, for what its worth, the only thing I am aware of that they have used any sort of "RST technique" with is BitTorrent transfers.
11-22-2008 09:15 PM
AVonGauss wrote:
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And, for what its worth, the only thing I am aware of that they have used any sort of "RST technique" with is BitTorrent transfers.
Oh agree with all you said, but will add to your final statement. There were some issues with the RST technique all having negative implact on the way Lotus Notes is implemented and a few other programs that have nothing to do with P2P. That part was not intentional on Comcast's part and I suspect is a portions of the reason Comcast gave up so easily on that technique.
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