10-17-2012 05:03 PM
So you think that this channel would more likely be available in a basic/extended cable package like FSN, if anything?
Yes. That is my own belief based on past experiences.
Of course a deal still needs to get done that allows for any level of carriage to happen.
10-19-2012 09:15 PM - edited 10-20-2012 01:23 PM
10-23-2012 01:26 AM
Technically it will probably cost $100 to $500 to hook the Lakers feed up so we can see it on the Central Coast. Writing the contract between Comcast and Time Warner will probably cost $50,000. The contract itself will maybe call for $100,000 to Time Warner. So figure a total of maybe $150,500 to have the Lakers on the Central Coast. If there are 5,000 of us that want it it would cost $30.10 each. To be fair a profit/handling margin should be added for Comcast. If the channel carries all the Lakers games, home and away, and the monthly charge is $6 x 7 months = $42 per account x 5,000 accounts = $210,000 revenue and $59,500 for Comcast bottom line. Not bad.
10-24-2012 09:17 PM
why can't comcast give us an update like this one from cox cable
Important update for Cox customers about negotiations for Lakers programming
Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Deportes, which launched October 1, 2012, have the exclusive English- and Spanish-language TV rights for the Los Angeles Lakers games. These channels also include some Los Angeles Galaxy soccer programming, Los Angeles Sparks and certain area high school and college games.
Currently, only Time Warner Cable and customers of Bright House Networks have access to TWC SportsNet and TW Deportes programming. TWC SportsNet has not secured carriage agreements with any other TV provider.
The price for the Lakers is one of the highest wholesale prices that we have seen, especially when you consider it on a "per game" basis: only 53 of the of the Lakers' 82 regular season games will be exclusively available on TWC SportsNet. The additional 29 games will be available on broadcast and other cable networks including ABC, ESPN and TNT, which are already available on Cox's lineup.
We are working through the negotiations process with Time Warner Cable SportsNet and hope we can come to an agreement that does not burden our customers with excessive price increases.
We have offered to carry their channels on our optional digital tiers, which would enable those who want to pay for the programming to have it. That offer has been refused.
As we do with all programming negotiations, we will continue to work through the negotiations process and fight on behalf of our customers to protect the value of the products and services we provide.
Is Cox planning to add Time Warner Cable SportsNet to its lineup?
We are working through the negotiations process with Time Warner Cable SportsNet and hope we can come to an agreement that does not burden our customers with excessive price increases. We have offered to carry their channels on our optional digital tiers, which would enable those who want to pay for the programming to have it. That offer has been refused.
We know that the Lakers are popular sports programming, but that programming comes at an extremely high price. We will continue to work through the negotiations process with TWC SportsNet to fight on behalf of our customers and protect the value of the products and services we provide.
Doesn't Cox get paid for offering programming?
No. There is a misconception that programmers pay cable companies like Cox to distribute their networks and content. In fact, Cox and all video providers are required to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to TV networks for the rights to distribute their programming.
When the wholesale cost of television programming increases, it drives up your (retail) cable bill. In particular, sports programming is the most expensive of all programming. Cox and all programming distributors negotiate fiercely to ensure that our customers' retail prices don't increase by millions of dollars.
Why is sports programming so expensive?
If you "follow the money," it goes like this:
1. Professional teams are paying incredibly large sums of money to sign the best players possible (e.g., The New York Yankees pay Alex Rodriguez $27.5 million per year for 10 years);
2. Television programmers help fund those salaries by buying TV rights to the team's games;
3. Television programmers raise the wholesale cost of this programming for television distributors to distribute those sports programs to their customers;
4. Cox absorbs as much of these cost increases as possible, but inevitably the customer has to pay more through retail price increases on their cable television bill, which is why we work hard to negotiate the best price possible for our customers.
10-24-2012 09:23 PM
to me it sounds like they don't want to carry the network cause we already see the games on national tv and the playoffs to just deal with it, giving us the middle finger, i hope that comcast isn't making the same excusse to us too
10-26-2012 11:15 PM
Now Verizon has signed up http://www.lakersnation.com/time-warner-cable-spor
10-27-2012 05:30 PM
I just read somewhere where cox wanted to add it to an sports package and time warner said their network was too valuble to have it in a sports package.
On October 24, Cox, which has 1.2 million subscribers in Southern California, said it was rebuffed in its offer to carry the two channels on a specialty tier that would offer a portion of its customers other sports channels.
"We are committed to meeting the needs of all Cox customers, not just sports fans," Cox said in a statement. "The price for the Lakers is one of the highest wholesale prices that we have seen." "
10-27-2012 06:24 PM
ok the season is going to start..cox is just playing the game to see if TWC caves in cuz dish hasnt signed in yet either..well the first games are telivised TNT..all we have to do is wait
10-28-2012 04:08 PM
Hey Lakers Fans maybe we are going at this backwards. This is what I sent TW.
Thanks TW for trying to GOUGE the other Providers just so the rest of us Laker Fans can watch them live.
Maybe we put pressure on them also? Just thinking.
10-31-2012 04:45 PM
sheesh still a hold out between the 4 of you providers i guess sheesh lol, its ok though im movin to oklahoma tomorrow night hopefully cox knocks a deal through before i get there so i can watch my laker games till 1am, but im happy i got this goin for you guys, hopefully you guys will get a deal done too
11-01-2012 04:10 AM
11-05-2012 02:05 AM
News from TW "More good news: Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Time Warner Cable Deportes and Cox Communications have agreed to terms. Launch details will be announced shortly."
Down to 3. Who's next?
11-05-2012 10:21 AM
so is comcast part of cox?
No. Comcast and Cox are two separate companies.
Discussions and terms for carriage of this network in our southern California footprint are still ongoing.
Good read in last week's The Hollywood Reporter on this issue, link below:
11-05-2012 12:32 PM
If Comcast is not signing a deal those of us that live 170 miles away from Staples ought to at least be able to watch them on NBA League Pass, frustrating to have that game blacked out last night...
11-05-2012 12:37 PM
Its not league passes fault..its the nba that has a black out section of ,i think 200 miles..that way people buy tickets...read the small print...i did and noticed that,thats why i didnt get it
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