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Paraniod
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Just A Heads Up

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13453497

 

Just saw the same post post below, but the more info the better I guess.

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Baric
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Registered: ‎07-28-2003

Re: Just A Heads Up

I think the days of there being no creditable malware threat to the Mac platform are officially over.  This same story is making the rounds everywhere, and I agree, the more people see it, the better informed they are.  This whole MacDefender issue is making the legions of anti-Apple-Mac Windoze fanboys drool with anticipation...

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EG
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Registered: ‎12-24-2003

Re: Just A Heads Up

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Baric wrote:

 

This whole MacDefender issue is making the legions of anti-Apple-Mac Windoze fanboys drool with anticipation...


HEYYYY.... Watch it Baric... I resemble that remark !!!! LOLLL !!!!  :smileymischief: :smileysilly:

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Re: Just A Heads Up

I'm not too worried, yet.

 

This is a trojan, so it requires the user to enter their password when it asks to install the downloaded software. It can't just install itself covertly.

 

It's not the first Mac trojan, either. There was another one going around a couple of years ago. If we get one new piece of malware in the wild every year or two, that's hardly an outbreak.

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EG
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Re: Just A Heads Up

Whatever brings one *comfort*....

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Baric
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Re: Just A Heads Up

If it's a lone outbreak and nothing new follows it, I'd agree with you.  But I don't think it will be.  Yes, there have been others in the past, but all were very low volume and didn't get much attention except in a very limited way in the technical community.  The malware slimers are very much "me too" types, if they see something that worked for their buddy, they will try it also.  Mac usage has continued to rise, quarter after quarter, offering an ever larger fresh, juicy target...

 

Trojan, yes, but that doesn't seem to have put a damper on its spread.  All it needs is gullible users and there's no shortage of those folks around the Internet.  And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

I've been one of the those who never bothered with a virus scanner for my Mac before, figuring it was mostly a pointless waste of time and resources.  I'm still not convinced that it's necessary quite yet, but I think it's coming and sooner rather than later.

 

Just my opinion.

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OriginalMacRat
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Re: Just A Heads Up

Yes, there is a lot of comfort knowing you are running a SECURE operating system like Mac OS X, Linux, BSD or Solaris.

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EG
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Re: Just A Heads Up

Famous quotes;

 

"He who laughs last, laughs best"

 

"Ignorance is bliss"

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Baric
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Re: Just A Heads Up

There's nothing inherently more secure about OS X or Linux, or any of the other flavors of *nix from say Windows 7.  Each has their own  security mechanisms and pretty often they are the same ones, if with slight variations.  The only truly secure system is one with no users and no access.  Of course, such a system is not very useful.

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BethKatz
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Re: Just A Heads Up

I'm with Baric in not having additional anti-malware software on my Macs. 

 

But all my family members use their own non-admin accounts. If the kids (bright, informed users) run across anything unusual, they ask us about it. We're not a typical family. 

 

I've been telling my local Apple user group members to be careful. I've suggested for many years that they

- keep their operating system updated

- use separate non-admin accounts for each user

- be aware of the source of any software they plan to install

- pay attention to where they click; as my school IT help desk says:

            STOP. THINK. CLICK.

- keep backups of their most important files

 

 

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Paraniod
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Re: Just A Heads Up

I'm firmly on the fence, blind faith doesn't work for me. I just prefer to keep an open mind.:smileywink:

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Joel
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Registered: ‎12-01-2003

Re: Just A Heads Up


Baric wrote:

 

Mac usage has continued to rise, quarter after quarter, offering an ever larger fresh, juicy target...



This is true, and all of these users are coming from... yep, you guessed it. And with them, they bring along a limited knowledge of the Mac platform as well as all of their old Windows bad habits. Sooner or later, its going to hit the fan. Those of us who frequent tech sites, blogs and forums tend to have a difficult time stepping out of our "tech minds" for a moment and thinking like average users. Sure, we all know how to avoid malware infestations (both on Mac and on Windows). However, if one of your parents or grandparents found themselves on a site that told you your machine was infected - click here to rid yourself of this digital gonorrhea for FREE! - would you trust them to know it was a scam? Knowing this, would you still advise against installing some sort of AV or anti-malware software?

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OriginalMacRat
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Re: Just A Heads Up


Joel wrote:

However, if one of your parents or grandparents found themselves on a site that told you your machine was infected - click here to rid yourself of this digital gonorrhea for FREE! - would you trust them to know it was a scam? Knowing this, would you still advise against installing some sort of AV or anti-malware software?



If you don't trust them to know, you should set up their account as "standard" so they can't install anything.

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BethKatz
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Re: Just A Heads Up

The anti-virus software can itself cause problems. It isn't like there isn't any anti-virus protection in the operating system. 

 

I know a lot of people are installing anti-malware software from Sophos.

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Joel
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Re: Just A Heads Up


BethKatz wrote:

The anti-virus software can itself cause problems. It isn't like there isn't any anti-virus protection in the operating system. 

 

I know a lot of people are installing anti-malware software from Sophos.


This is true. Norton is famous (or infamous) for this reason. Like Windows users, it's important to do some research on these products rather than blindly install them just because your ISP has made them freely available. The free offering from Sophos is actually getting some good reviews from Mac users over at MacUpdate.