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bpkilgore
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Registered: ‎07-06-2008

Best anti virus for older P4 computers

Hi All,  I have a few older, slower computers with a P4 processor at about 2.6 GHz. What would be the best choice for an anti virus that wont slow the computer down to a crawl??  It seems everything I try just isn't working. Even AVG slows things down quite a bit.  Any suggestions ??    Thanks Brent :smileysad:
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USAF_E-8_RET
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

Brent - was that intended to be a loaded question?  :smileywink:

 

Seems like whenever anyone asks about anti-virus everyone has an opinion and it results in a thread full of use this, don't use that etc.  AV debate is just about as heavy as IE vs FF.

 

Anyway, from my experience.  I am currently running NIS 2010 on an XP Home SP3 System with no increased problems.  It is a P4, 1.6 GHZ and only has 512 MB of RAM.  That is why I stated no increased problems as it was slow to start with.  Did I mention I am still also on the orginal OEM OS install dating back to Feb of 2002 when I purchased the PC?

 

I have successfully run AVG and Kaspersky on this system.  I did have older Norton AV and SystemWorks installed and they really slowed it down.

 

My suggestion would be a trial of those AV's that offer trials (or the free ones) and see which program plays the nicest with your system.  Is my old system fast, no, never really was, but it I found something I can live with. 

 

Good luck with your search.

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bpkilgore
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

Yea I know what you mean, slow will never be faster :smileywink:  I have a network of 6 computers that have everything from XP to Vista to W7, and several cameras.  I have never had any trouble with virus's or anything else for that matter, which leads me to another question, when your behind a router how safe are you with just that protection alone??  I have experimented a little and have gone with no antivirus at all. Just the firewall and router that has some protection also. Its a D-Link DIR-655. And nothing has ever gotten through to cause any problems.  What are your thoughts on that??
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USAF_E-8_RET
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

I do not have anything networked at the moment, but I do use a router and personally, I consider the router a pretty decent firewall, but with Norton NIS, on all three of my systems, I have a firewall and anti-virus on each systems anyway.  I don't recall ever hearing "you don't need anti-virus protection  because you have a router".

 

We have some other folks on here who are lots more knowledgeable than I am in the router/networking protection area.  Hopefully one of them will comment, as I am afradi I am not much help.

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Bartleby
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

I'll chime in regarding the "how safe am I because I'm behind a router" point.

 

Remember that in its most basic form, your home router typically does limited security-related things for you.  I know this stuff has been covered often in other areas of the forum, and I'll apologize in advance for the repetition here (as opposed to referencing other Help forum threads, or providing links to resources on the web).

 

NAT (Network Address Translation) hides your connected devices from the net at large, in that the router handles all traffic coming into it.  Your home router is the only device your modem knows about--in the case of having a standalone modem, with the router directly connected to it.  Every device behind your router has an internal address that the router keeps track of so it can manage traffic between the web and your devices, and also between your networked devices.  The "outside world" doesn't have access to the internal addresses of the devices on your network, so it can't send traffic directly to them.  All traffic to and from them is handled by the router.

 

And this is where the other security function comes in, if the router includes it.

 

SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection) further makes sure that unsolicited traffic (in the form of data packets) is not allowed to reach your networked devices.  Not all routers do this, by the way...and all software firewalls do, but this is a complex process.  I'll dumb it down a bit and use an example below:

 

Imagine a user (Bartleby), and his computer is connected via a router using an SPI firewall.

  1. Bartleby points his web browser at a web page, like www.comcast.net.
  2. The web browser sends a packet to www.comcast.net, saying "I'm going to talk to you."
  3. The packet goes through the SPI firewall.
  4. The firewall notes, "Bartleby is sending a packet to www.comcast.net."
  5. The firewall sends that packet on to www.comcast.net.
  6. Now www.comcast.net sends a packet back to Bartleby, saying "Okay, you can talk to me."
  7. The packet from www.comcast.net gets back to the SPI firewall.
  8. The SPI firewall has to decide, "Should I let this packet in?"
  9. The SPI firewall notes, "The packet is from www.comcast.net."
  10. Because it's been keeping track of its "state", the SPI firewall can check to see if Bartleby recently sent out a packet to www.comcast.net.
  11. The SPI firewall discovers that yes, Bartleby sent a packet to www.comcast.net, so this must be a reply.
  12. The SPI firewall allows the packet from www.comcast.net on to Bartleby's computer.

This all happens at mind-boggling speed.  (We are talking millions of packets per second, generally, as you browse the web and communicate with other devices in and out of your home network.

 

Where the SPI protection can leave you exposed is because the communication between your computer and a typical web page is processing all sorts of packets containing the content of said page.  (Text, Graphics, executable applets and other active content, links to other sites, etc.)

 

Since you asked your browser to load the website, that's essentially a green light from the SPI firewall's perspective.  And that's just for browsing.  Use an e-mail client to retrieve your mail, and you are telling the router to accept all the packets (and their content) associated with sending/receiving mail.  If something malicious is part of that mail content, the router just figures "you asked for it".

 

A software firewall can apply security rules to further control what's allowed in (or out), and anti-malware apps (eg. anti-virus, anti-trojan, anti-spyware, etc.) can use signatures of known baddies to block them, plus heuristic methods that identify and block things that may not yet have known signatures.

 

Hence the standard advice to apply a layered-approach to security.  Once you initiate the connection to the potentially "big bad world" of the web, a router generally is supposed to say, "you asked for it, here it is".  What happens after that is up to the security that's active on the system receiving it.  And that starts with your behavior, like your choices of how to configure security options of your hardware and software.  The latter includes the Operating System, and all the applications you choose to run on it (or not)--including how up-to-date you keep them with security patches, etc.

 

Hope all of the above is of some use.

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DoubleG
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

I am running a P4 and using Free Avast version 5 and have had no problems at all.
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

If you have memory-resident programs (other than antivirus) that run in the background, that can chew up your resources.

 

Double up on your RAM and that should speed it up considerably. If you have 512M, go to 1G.

 

McAfee runs good on my XP SP3 box with 512M Ram and a 733MHZ P3 processor. I don't think the processor is as much a factor as the RAM. Get more RAM.

 

I have new and old P4s that run great on McAfee.

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bpkilgore
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Re: Best anti virus for older P4 computers

Thanks for all the input guys, I do keep up  to date with all patches and regular maint. is a top priority. My router does have spi and it is also locked down with the mac addresses- I can't even access my own network from inside it without dropping the guards in place. All  the computers are packed with as much ram as they can use, ie. 3 GB for the 32 bit and I have a new one I just built that is W7 64 bit pro. With 6 GB ddr3. So far I have had zero infections and everything has been good. I appreciate the senereio above it helped explain about the spi and I always use firewalls in addition to the other stuff. Thanks again Brent :smileyhappy:
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