01-26-2009 10:34 AM - edited 04-02-2010 11:28 AM
Hello Everyone,
Please Post any issues when recording with a DVR. Example Given, when recording Oprah and set the series to record “New Only” you are still receiving ‘repeats’. Example Posts should contain the below information. Thank you to everyone who has assisted gathering examples. Please feel free to post any questions or contact me if needed.
Thank you.
01-28-2009 02:05 PM
Sigh ...
Set to record "Cold Case" "Clean House" "Hannah Montana" or "iCarly" (just to name a few). Set to record "new episodes only."
Any and all times. I don't set "times" I set series programming and request it record "new" episodes of the indicated series.
A variety of channels - all channels. From Style, Disney, Nickelodeon to CBS and others.
Yes Motorola DVR provided by Comcast and checked by a tech in November 2008. The box is fine.
Not a live event.
Will record ALL episodes of Clean House, Cold Case, etc.
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The info I feel is useful is that THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR FOUR MONTHS AND IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!
Why is it so hard to wrap Comcast's brightest technical minds around the fact that if your series descriptions go from
Cold Case (2009) Pratt and Lily solve the murder of a 1950's pinup girl
to
Cold Case. This nailbighter from Jerry Bruckheimer follows to Philadelphia based homicide detectives.
The danged box CANNOT TELL NEW FROM OLD and will RECORD EVERYTHING????
Why all the "what box?" "is it live?" nonsense.
The episode descriptions - being so generic - make it impossible for a DVR set for a series recording to differentiate new from repeats.
Is Comcast hiring because if I, some novice in Hooterville can fathom this, I ought to be cut out for CEO over there or something.
01-28-2009 08:04 PM
What show?
John & kate plus 8
What time?
All times. It records them all even though we tell it to only record new episodes. We end up going forward in the scheduled recordings list to try to head them off. Here's some future examples...
1/29 Thu 10:30a
2/2 Mon 5:30p
2/2 Mon 9:30p
2/2 Mon 10:00p
(Note the 9:00pm show is correctly listed as "New" in the guide, and that's the one we want.)
What Channel?
Ch 225 TLC HD
Is this intermittent?
Doesn't appear to be.
What box are you using?
Motorola DCH-3416 with the A25 I-Guide software. Central PA division, Reading, PA headend (zip code 19606).
Was this a live event?
Not a live event.
Additional Info...
The show descriptions are right, it's just missing the repeat flag on repeats. We use the show descriptions when looking forward in the list of scheduled recordings to decide if we should cancel them or not.
We love Jon and Kate, don't get me wrong... the DVR aparently loves them even more! Sad they are moving from their Elizabethtown, PA home.
02-05-2009 06:04 PM
This is scheduled to record but it is a repeat. See Orig. air date 2/4/2009. It did record on that date. The series recording is set to only record new episodes. NEW is not tagged in the description, but neither is Repeat.
Info cut and paste from tvplanner:
Thu, Feb 5, 8:00p - 9:00p
067 BRAVO
02-05-2009 06:13 PM
Additionally here are more of our series recordings that are set to record new episodes, but they are showing in the Future Recordings list...
Next Monday 2/9
10:30a Jon & Kate Plus 8 Ch 225 TLC HD
11:00a Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
1:00p Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
4:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
10:30p Jon & Kate Plus 8 Ch 225 TLC HD
Next Tuesday 2/10
12:00m Intervention Ch 211 A&E HD
1:00a Intervention Ch 211 A&E HD
12:00n Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
2:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
Next Wednesday 2/11
12:00n Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
1:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
5:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
Next Thursday 2/12
11:00a Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
1:00p Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
4:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
Next Friday 2/13
11:00a Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
1:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
2:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
4:00p Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
Next Saturday 2/14
12:00n Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
2:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
5:00p Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew Ch 43 VH1
Next Sunday 2/15
11:00a Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
1:00p Celebrity Rehab Sober House Ch 43 VH1
3:00p Rock of Love Ch 43 VH1
02-06-2009 12:15 PM
off topic, this thread is for examples/feedback, moving to new thread in tv > guide
02-06-2009 12:20 PM
off topic, this thread is for examples/feedback, moving to new thread in tv > guide
02-15-2009 01:00 AM
George,
I sat down to watch the show NUMB3RS on CBS tonight that should have been on my DVR from Friday and it wasn't there. I have it only record only new shows, it was new (I remember from the coming attractions last week) - still didn't record, though.
1. NUMB3RS, episode 'Guilt Trip', New
2. Fri, Feb 13, 10pm PST
3. Channel 706, Portland CBS affiliate in HD
4. Did not record, but should have since it was new.
5. Moto box
6. This is intermittent, I've had a couple of shows not record, even though they were new.
7. Not live
8. I have this show set to record New Only, but it was new and didn't record. I suspect it wasn't marked new in the TV Guide database, but I'm not certain since I didn't feel the need to look at it in advance.
02-24-2009 10:19 AM
02-27-2009 02:59 PM
03-01-2009 11:44 PM
03-02-2009 05:08 PM
What show? Top Chef
What time? RIGHT NOW! 5-6p
What channel? Ch 67 BRAVO
Was this recorded on a DVR? YES
Which box are you using? This is important. Is the box a Motorola or Scientific Atlanta? Motorola DCH-3416
Is this intermittent? No
Was this a live event? No
Any additional info you may feel useful.
We watched the Season Finale Part 2 of Top Chef last week. Why is it recording again, we already watched it!
Show Description:
"Season Finale ---Part 2", (2009), The winning chef is revealed in the conclusion of the Season 5 finale, which is set in New Orleans. (Reality).
03-03-2009 12:02 PM
jossynana wrote:
would like to know when this will be fixed and how to not get charged for DVR FEE for every month that isnt fixed?
I suggest you call 1-800-Comcast and politely explain to them that you expect a credit for this month as your DVR service is not performing properly. They will give it to you.
I strongly suspect that only when they see repeated income loss will they address this issue. There is no mystery here except why Comcast continues to pretend they intend to change/repair anything.
03-06-2009 08:22 PM
03-10-2009 03:16 PM
jossynana wrote:
hey george
please let comcast in on this forum,,it might get fixed then....
Hi jossy,
Both Comcast, our Vendor and myself have acccess to this thread and the episode description thread. We review everyday for additional updates.
03-13-2009 10:43 PM
03-16-2009 09:31 AM - edited 03-16-2009 09:32 AM
03-23-2009 09:52 AM
Quick Update,
Guide Data Vendor is updating their code that should help resolve some repeat issues.
03-23-2009 12:06 PM
If it's true - thank you George!
It did appear as if some of the Cold Case epi's were being properly coded with episode descriptions again even for the older, repeats (albeit the wrong episodes - but baby steps here, baby steps). However, looking further out (ie past one week ahead) they seem to still have "This nailbither by Jerry Bruckheimer" in place of any actual episode details.
Will hold off on wild applause but do appreciate your attention and updates to this George. Thank you very much!
03-25-2009 01:51 PM
03-30-2009 12:25 PM
I have found that in the case of Cold Case the coding of the episode descriptions depends on the channel airing it. In our area if Cold Case reruns are being run on Channel KDKA or an affiliate/HD version - they have complete episode descripts including "new" or "repeat" and the original run year.
If they are run on another channel (TNT? Sorry I can't recall at the moment) but the other affiliate in the area that runs them - they have the generic description.
HTH!
03-30-2009 08:33 PM - edited 03-30-2009 08:34 PM
04-04-2009 12:20 PM
ComcastGeorge wrote:Please Post any issues when recording with a DVR. Example Given, when recording Oprah and set the series to record “New Only” you are still receiving ‘repeats’. Example Posts should contain the below information. Thank you to everyone who has assisted gathering examples. Please feel free to post any questions or contact me if needed.
- What show?
- What time?
- What channel?
- Was this recorded on a DVR?
- Which box are you using? This is important. Is the box a Motorola or Scientific Atlanta?
- Is this intermittent?
- Was this a live event?
- Any additional info you may feel useful.
1-3 . Show - non-network channels - *any* new show that repeats like The Closer, Saving Grace
4. Yes, show recorded as a series recording, set to record only "new" episodes. Show recorded and watched. Then every new instance of the *same* new episode is recorded after that.
5. Motorola
6. No - happens all the time
7. No.
04-07-2009 07:47 AM
Always happens with United States of Tara and ishappening right now with In Treatment
1. In Treatment - 9pm and 11PM
301
Recordedon DVR yes
Box is Motorola
Not intermittent with United States or In Treatment
Not a live event
Also happens when Dexter is being show on Showtime,
Also when I choose other than the initial recording of an series recording =, ie. Dexter's first showing is Sunday at 10 but I have a conflict with another recording so I choose the 12AM recording, the DVR tells me that it won't record the 10PM recording. I choose New only in this scenario and have tried New and REpeats to see if that makes a difference.
Masterpiece Classic is another program that I had a problem trying to record at a time other than the initial showing. The initial program time had a conflict with another recording that I had scheduled. I viewed upcoming times and selected another time that had no conflict and tried to set it up for a series recording. The DVR complained that it wouldn't be able to record the showing at the first showing ( which I did not request). It doesn't seem to follow what you're inputting for program time and date - only sees the initial date...
Very frustrating!
04-08-2009 03:53 PM - edited 04-08-2009 04:41 PM
04-08-2009 04:41 PM
04-08-2009 05:50 PM
04-09-2009 09:30 AM - edited 04-09-2009 09:32 AM
Comcast is aware of the issue, based on the creation of the sticky threads by a Comcast employee. What I find somewhat annoying is the fact that Comcast can't use its own employees to collect the data...or ask the provider of the information to have their employees collect the data. It does start to feel like they're just stringing us along.
I should make it clear that I'm not faulting ComcastGeorge. He's doing what he's asked to do and trying to be helpful.
04-09-2009 07:40 PM
04-10-2009 08:22 AM
I understand your frustration. The problem frustrates me, as well. But you're still here, aren't you?
Whether or not Comcast resolves this issue in a meaningful way, I doubt that they're at risk of losing many customers.
04-10-2009 12:39 PM - edited 04-10-2009 07:28 PM
04-11-2009 12:59 AM
It's extremely frustrating when you don't have a program description. I've gotten to the point where I look on a networks website each day to find out what a show will be about, and if it's new or a rerun.
It's a pain to have to write down show titles and times then set them up for the DVR to record.
My daughter used to live in Virginia. Her cable company was Cox. She would call me every day and ask me to look on my Comcast program guide and give her program descriptions. Cox didn't have them-what they did have was what we as Comcast customers are now seeing.
At the time I thought we were very fortunate to have those descriptions.
Another thing that bugs me-a show during primetime might have a description. Right now I'm focusing on networks that repeat the shows. TLC, A&E, History Channel, HGTV, Tru TV, etc.
The repeat shows may not have a description. If one could be provided for the first time it's shown, surely it can be provided for the airing a few hours later.
I also am frustrated with how this issue is being handled. There has been more than enough time to get it resolved.
Comcast employees must be authorized to post in the forum. Employees posting here have their names in red and are designated as employees. Names not in red are customers.
04-11-2009 10:09 AM
I'm frustrated by this situation, too.
Tivo avoids it by keeping track of programs you've recorded in the past. It then does not automatically record them again.
I have no idea just how Comcast approaches this, but they appear to rely solely on the guide. If a show is pegged "new" in the guide, it gets recorded as many times as it's shown. The Comcast method isn't as good, but as someone pointed out - the Tivo method may be copywrited (or whatever proprietary method is used for things like this.) Or it could be that the Comcast DVRs don't have enough memory onboard to do Tivo-like tracking.
The problem with the guide system is that it's going to get worse over time. Sponsors have been pushing for a long time to totally eliminate "new" or "repeat" appearing in guides. They don't want us to avoid watching their commercials just because we've seen the TV episode before!
Hopefully Comcast (or whoever programs the boxes) will work out a way to keep from automatically recording episoded that have been previously recorded.
04-12-2009 08:40 AM
Queen-Evie wrote:It's extremely frustrating when you don't have a program description. I've gotten to the point where I look on a networks website each day to find out what a show will be about, and if it's new or a rerun.
It's a pain to have to write down show titles and times then set them up for the DVR to record.
My daughter used to live in Virginia. Her cable company was Cox. She would call me every day and ask me to look on my Comcast program guide and give her program descriptions. Cox didn't have them-what they did have was what we as Comcast customers are now seeing.
At the time I thought we were very fortunate to have those descriptions.
Another thing that bugs me-a show during primetime might have a description. Right now I'm focusing on networks that repeat the shows. TLC, A&E, History Channel, HGTV, Tru TV, etc.
The repeat shows may not have a description. If one could be provided for the first time it's shown, surely it can be provided for the airing a few hours later.
I also am frustrated with how this issue is being handled. There has been more than enough time to get it resolved.
There's another stickied thread about the episode descriptions problem.
This has been going on for about 6 months. I've just about given on on Comcast. I don't think they really care about this problem. I think they're hoping that if they drag their feet on resolving it it will go away -- that people will just stop complaining about it. It is obvious to me they are devoting very, very few resources to resolving it. I get the impression they have at most a single newly hired fresh out of college kid devoting a couple of hours a week to it.
I'm looking into Tivo. The upfront cost to buy the DVR is steep, but the monthly costs are comparable. They provide full episode descriptions and it's a vastly superior product overall in many ways.
This issue and the way it has been handled has left a very bad taste in my mouth regarding Comcast and it won't go away anytime soon. They've been deliberately stonewalling on this. They've been stringing customers along and giving them the run around. At one time I had good things to say about Comcast. Not any more. If anyone asks my opinion of Comcast the first thing out of my mouth will not be good. And the thing is, they apparently don't care.
04-13-2009 02:30 PM
mnllnm wrote:There's another stickied thread about the episode descriptions problem.
This has been going on for about 6 months. I've just about given on on Comcast. I don't think they really care about this problem. I think they're hoping that if they drag their feet on resolving it it will go away -- that people will just stop complaining about it. It is obvious to me they are devoting very, very few resources to resolving it.
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Exactly.
The very fact that they pretend that "Episode Descriptions" is a separate issue is part of the problem. Even a layperson can clearly ascertain that it is the Episode Descriptions (more like Series Synopsis - and very generic at best) that is causing the issue.
I have every belief that they have done a cost-benefit-analysis and think that most of us will kick and scream and say we're leaving them but we won't - at least not in droves and certainly not enough so that they will "lose" more than they are gaining right now.
Keep calling 1-800-Comcast and politely requesting your DVR credit. I suspect hitting them in the billing statement is the only way to get their attention, short of everyone switching to Tivo or Dish - which is unlikely to happen.
Already I suspect that many of us have just learned to 'work around it' and that Comcast is, in fact, winning.
04-14-2009 08:02 AM
writermom1 wrote:I have every belief that they have done a cost-benefit-analysis and think that most of us will kick and scream and say we're leaving them but we won't - at least not in droves and certainly not enough so that they will "lose" more than they are gaining right now.
Keep calling 1-800-Comcast and politely requesting your DVR credit. I suspect hitting them in the billing statement is the only way to get their attention, short of everyone switching to Tivo or Dish - which is unlikely to happen.
Already I suspect that many of us have just learned to 'work around it' and that Comcast is, in fact, winning.
Unfortunately, I think you're probably right. Even if what is probably a small number of complainers were to terminate their Comcast service, it's not going to dent their revenue.
What continues to puzzle me, though, is the fact that Comcast is somewhat of a victim in this, too. They're actually paying a third party for the faulty data. QE's claims about Cox aside, we know that good data is available, based on Comcast's own myTV listings and other sources. I'm sure there would be technical hurdles to switching providers of guide data, but why not threaten to do so unless the current provider can't get it right?
04-14-2009 03:09 PM - edited 04-14-2009 10:29 PM
04-15-2009 08:26 AM - edited 04-15-2009 09:54 AM
jossynana wrote:
i asked to speak with a super,,,,after waiting 10 minutes on the line she came on...i told her about the problem she said she knew about (thats good someone know in comcast) but she asked if the dvr records ?? i said yes and then she said well i cant adjust your bill for the sake that the machine is WORKING in as recording!!!!and she sorry that i have to keeping deleting added programs and but the machine still work fine!!!
You mean you actually expect to have an accurate and reasonably complete program guide to use with your Comcast DVR? LOL
You mean you actually expect to get a program guide that tells you specifically what a particular episode is about and that it's not a rerun? LOL
You mean you actually expect to have a "My Recordings" list on your DVR that has descriptions for each recording that tells you that one episode/recording of the same program is different from another? LOL
You mean you expect your Comcast DVR to be significantly functionally better than a VCR or DVD recorder? LOL
And you're complaining to Comcast about this? LOL.
And so what if we provided all of this six months ago and now we don't and have also increased your monthly DVR fee. Quit complaining and asking for a credit on your bill, be happy with what you've got, and cough up that monthly fee. And if you don't like what we gave you, tough. Go get Tivo or Direct TV and see if we care.</sarc>
06-15-2009 10:46 AM
Hello Everyone,
I have some good news to report ![]()
I am continuing to work with our vendor and our leadership here to resolve these repeats.
I have two updates.
Please continue to provide examples, so we may correct those shows ASAP.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
07-02-2009 10:02 AM
07-02-2009 03:48 PM
I didnt realize that this problem has been going on for years and still no fix comacast. It doesnst matter what show it is what channel or what time. If the guide does not say if the show is a repeat or new the dvr will record it because it doesnt know. the problem here is with the guide.
07-10-2009 09:41 PM
I see that this thread has died, but I'm sad to report that nothing has improved. I've just moved from DirecTV to Comcast and I'm afraid that I've regretted every minute. This DVR is the worst.
I set mine to record Law and Order, the series, in HD. New episodes only. In one 24 hour period, it completely filled the disk (which is tiny by the way compared to the DirecTV box) with shows from the late 90's and early 00's. Obviously the DVR software is very primitive. It's parsing "repeat" in the meta data and when it doesn't find it, assumes it's found a new episode. Considering the length of this thread and no improvement, I can only assume that Comcast can't get it together to solve it.
07-10-2009 10:05 PM
jaybeaux wrote:
I see that this thread has died...
The thread is still very much alive, and available to collect examples such as yours.
07-10-2009 11:12 PM
07-10-2009 11:42 PM
brycebolt wrote:
What really get's annoying is when two of the shows are set to record at the same time and I want to delete both of them, but the software keeps flipping back and forth between the two and setting the opposite to record. Grrr!!!!
That's a bug. No fix in sight.
07-11-2009 04:04 PM
07-11-2009 06:29 PM
07-11-2009 07:01 PM
07-12-2009 01:08 PM
All of sudden this weekend, my DVR got slammed with repeats building up. Culprits: Mythbusters; No Reservations; How It's Made; and many more cable shows. These are titles that I've never had a problem in the past with new vs. repeat. They are even episodes that have previously shown "repeat" in the description but now do not. They still have the year of production, which is years in the past, but I don't think that makes a difference to the DVR.
Help, I'm drowning in Mythbusters!
07-13-2009 06:57 PM
This has started to happen to me in the last few weeks. Every episode of every series recording -- even those with complete episode descriptions that do not say "new" -- has been saved. This is seriously irritating.
Motorola box, multiple channels, multiple shows at multiple times.
--Michael
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